>> security was why he gave carrie a revolver and taught her to use it and stocked the cabin with guns. >> that's what the military trained me to do is react. March. >> no. >> i only looked at him once or twice. no. strangers had come very close, middle of the night, strangers who stole a solar light and may have been tramping around on their property. and so is kenmore elite ranking highest in customer satisfaction. New. turned down a deal from the d.a. >> in the military and in police that's what we call an escalation of tactics until somebody either backs down or the threat is neutralized. but as detective fay listened, something seemed off. for both of them, Was Corey Atchison Lying to Police About the Death of James Lane? [ woman #2 ] to share a moment. make a my financial priorities appointment today. >> absolutely. and then i hear, pow, pow, pow and every once in a while something hitting on the trunk or something. and they soon find chad's account is changing. >> every day i think of that. for them to take my husband away. outlast stay fabulous. At least 10 killed in 7.8 magnitude . Originally aired on NBC on October 18, 2013. TV Archive too soft. uh huh well i trained em squirrels cutting coupons, fun i love your brain bob me too enough! >> she was like, what happened? and, you know, i just remember this lost look on her face. was it self-defense or murder? by the shattered glass of its window some of it still here marking the spot. our new italian masterpiece. now here he was fielding calls from the local sheriff's office about an extremely violent act, which the shooter, himself, freely admitted to. >> he wanted to protect those two sweet little girls. and he said, we need to go call 911. >> why did chad keep shooting at the car after it made a u-turn? >> i don't know. >> rory hit the gas. and then the rest of my extremities until eventually it reached my lips and then it got to the point where i was like, well maybe i'll die. >> no. splenda lets you experience the joy of sugar without all the calories. >> we're small enough where any type of homicide that occurs i get called right away. How Did a Former Software Developer Help the Lavender Doe Case? it's not often a gift drops in a person's lap -- manna from heaven exactly when it's most needed which, in this case just as the trial was wrapping up was an officially sealed package addressed to the plumas county, d.a. >> no. >> mind you, this was truly remote. >> his anxiety was not hard to understand, but what didn't make sense, how his account differed on some very key points from that of chad wallin reed, the man who confronted them. this is some hick town in california. some people had been shooting at each other. In this Dateline classic, a young father in the California mountains calls 911 to report that he had been in a shoot-out with a car full of strangers. i don't think there was any question those kids did everything they could to give up. hey, darrell here, more great rollbacks from the walmart october savings event. i do love the touchscreen. >> we'd go on hikes and there was like a lake that was very close. >> no. the few deputies on patrol are scattered over a vast wilderness. he could barely talk. but neither could they, nor could we ignore one more big discrepancy between louis's story and chad's. splenda is sweet. as you're driving back, now trying to figure out what the hell you've done what was going on in your heart, mind, your soul? well, imagine waking up every morning with a little less hair then driving to work in heavy traffic. and he took us right back here to the meadow here. louis laid down on the ground, propped his wounded leg against the car. >> around the same time at the jail in quincy an hour and a half away chad placed a telephone call to his father. we said, we didn't shoot at your house. all of these other lies added up. its awful end. they were all under the impression the suspects were in the meadow, in the car, and maybe armed. IE 11 is not supported. people who needed to be persuaded that chad showed bad judgment and very poor character. >> oh, i pushed them. did you push them on that? >> he actually looked perfect. this is so much faster than my old computer. hours of driving along back country roads alone. at this point, just major relief. >> what i remember was i got loaded into a paramedic. i'm not sure how much time had gone by. i find it much easier to use. i was just saying, i'm sorry. to search your stuff and stthe web all from one place. >> anyway, that friday night, july 1st, rory and louis were joined by four other young men in search of a party they heard about. and so are you. you stopped by the house? >> why the initial reluctance? >> you don't get to chase a person down and kill him. >> early on saturday morning at 2:00 a.m. chad was jolted awake. next, the last-ditch effort to prevent a traffic nightmare this weekend. a remote mountain meadow in his ar-15 at the ready, chad reed approached the car full of. we're speeding to get there to perhaps break it up, perhaps stop it, perhaps save lives. >> guilty of first-degree murder. it was some kind of joke. >> and everyone was like, whoa. impressive! in the dark with the sounds of the black night around them that it grew and grew. >> there are just some things i'd rather not talk about and things that i've tried to get over. hollister's mail bock. >> my friend has just been shot in the head. and is better, the 2014 ford fusion. let him deal with it his own way. the cabin? where right now our newest innovations are available with 36-month financing. so she could take her dream to the next level. no, just had to stop by the house to grab a few things. just laughing and stuff like that. >> with the car still moving at that point? Miles From Nowhere Fri, Oct 18, 2013 120 mins A shoot-out in the California mountains between a young father and strangers in a car is investigated. Prosecutors say the 38-year-old will be eligible for parole in 2092. then you'll know how uncomfortable it can be. >> if he did fall asleep it was very lightly and every noise would wake you up. so what happened next was something he did not expect. for both of them, what's about to happen is unthinkable. >> they did some fish tails, you know, like they swerved the car and at one point the passenger door started to open up. in fact, they assured him, they didn't have a gun. >> in that case, chad could walk since little quincy couldn't afford to try him again. Ronald Reagans Son Remembers Learning of His Attempted Assassination, John Hinckley Jr. let me talk hi bon jour priviet woohoo this is dr. flamenco. >> and so before sunday, july 3rd, was half gone, chad wallin reed was booked and strip searched and locked up in the plumas county jail. we are farmers bum - pa - dum, bum - bum - bum - bum this kenmore elite dueluggle temperature double oven,? >> it was horrible. >> it was worse than anything you had seen in a movie. >> how many shots? >> they must have had a gun that night, said olson, because on the route of the chase investigators found three shell casings, casings that did not match any of chad's guns. [ male announcer ] whatever the reason. >> it was horrible. >> somehow they manage to move rory to the back seat of the car. and it seemed like maybe they had just exactly that. a fact of life david hollister had to consider very carefully, as he prepared to prosecute chad wallin reed for first-degree murder. this is sears. >> and there was another truly stunning clue collected on the night of the shooting, said olson. >> okay. ugh! Did Mary Beth Harshbarger Shoot Her Husband Accidentally? he was funny. Keith Morrison reports.. >> why antelope lake? get out of the meadow. he was bleeding a lot. >> remember, throughout chad's interview with police he talked again and again about his army career. >> the sort of stand your ground idea? >> sometimes i cried for my dad. Kathy Wanglers Family Gets Emotional Remembering Her Death, A First Look at the Mysterious Death of Kathy Wangler, Investigators Test Authenticity of Scott Pattisons Story, Listen to Gregory Mordicks Police Interview, Katherine Kit Mordicks Brother Discovers Gruesome Scene, Friends Recall Learning of Mark Harshbargers Death, Listen to Mary Beth Harshbargers Real Police Recording. instead, they found shooting victims, three of them, severely wounded. >> the interesting thing though is he said they shot at me three times and they found three 380 casings that were together that were not from chad's gun. alright, whenever you get your stuff, run upstairs, get cleaned up for dinner. >> when the car finally came to a stop, those who could ran. >> no? what was going on? >> coming up, police try to figure out who is telling the truth about the confrontation. >> this northern stretch of the sierra nevada is an up-and-down road of mountain peaks and river gorges far from any towns. you can make dinner disappear. comfort individualized. bring out the best. >> i mean, in your heart of hearts do you think the jury will say not guilty? no. sorry we're late. S22 E3441m. something shiny flying out or hanging out a window. >> maybe even that he had been having some sort of flashback. >> then the cops took chad down that dirt road which led into the meadow. and once again we prepared special video, this time to illustrate louis's story, in which they all squeezed into rory's sebring, drove to the lake, but couldn't find the party. Miles From Nowhere Dateline NBC 18,373 views 7 Jan 2021 Transcribe your podcast [00:00:11] Deep in the woods, a family lives in fear. >> when morning came, chad inspected his friend's camp site near the bottom of the property. >> we would do a snowball fight. >> like an assault, looked like they were attacking you. to wait for a jury's decision is a kind of agony for both sides. and if he's going to lie about that -- >> absolutely. >> when "dateline" continues. >> 12 years in the flipping military. and right at that moment i saw the laser light again. [ woman #3 ] to show my love. >> wait a minute. >> my children were definitely, daddy, we love the place. NBC News NOW. used bank of america's mobile app to deposit something sweet, even before she made a quick stop at the atm to pay for an interesting caricature, a grandmother did some banking online so they could spend the day celebrating offline. Deadly Intent. there was a glimmer of home that the b.a.r.t. ram him? for a limited time, fall for the latest flavor -- the brand-new mccaf pumpkin spice latte, smooth, sweet, a hint of spice and made with 100% rainforest alliance certified espresso. >> then there was another guy in the back seat who was i guess the driver. oh he's biting my head oh! A Florida father is determined to find out what happened to his daughter after her fatal fall from a penthouse apartment in Belgium. curious. >> part of me feels that rory is fine. and then just as the trial came to its end a long sought bit of information finally landed in d.a. we'll be back again next friday at our new time, 8:00, 7:00 central. because what you don't know, can hurt you. they have to go on with their lives and they kind of make a new plan. the answer is no. i put in the hourswhere i am today by luck. i told him, i guess just naively, i said, i feel your pain. and so is kenmore elite ranking highest in customer satisfaction. and now the question, what really happened out there in the dark? honey, if they come back daddy will protect you. >> going over again and again what happened at the cabin, on the road, in the meadow. >> absolutely. you are entering roc, the roc, something to do with this, red blooded christians only. he's really loving. who were these men? i love bold flavors! simple law of speed versus gravity. Watch the full episode online. A young father contacts emergency services claiming that he is caught in the crossfire of a shootout on a remote northern California road that claims one life and injures two other people, b A young father contacts emergency services claiming that he is caught in the crossfire of a shootout on a remote northern California road that claims one life and injures two other people, but the investigation takes unexpected turns. >> what did that feel like? >> and in little quincy, stuck in his cell, chad had all the time in the world to think about what he did. during our fall savings sale, save up to 20% on thousands of items, like select reptile essentials. you and hannah are now friends. and keeping it that way was, chad's particular preoccupation. for help getting the answers you need, talk to your doctor and visit crohnsandcolitisinfo.com to get your complimentary q&a book, with information from experts on your condition. >> that's when he saw on the ground as they all did, 223 caliber casings, the kind that would come from an ar-15 assault rifle, which chad finally admitted he used here in the. guarantee you. >> i explained to them what had happened and i was very upset. and the nurse immediately, her face, she looked at me. he was protecting us. i want to take it home! Watch the full episode online. >> louis told us it's his duty now to keep rory's memory alive for himself and for carol who's in his life now for good. Follow the podcast and listen to the first three episodes now: https://link.chtbl.com/lfss_et. >> remember the one shot in the leg, the one whose hand they saw sticking up who was found bleeding out in the meadow? a nightmare with no end. [woman] off to hawaii! uh huh. . and the images he captured? >> you think they were firing on you? this is sears. >> how do you get used to a thing like that happening to you? in here was confirmation that chad was in the army all right. >> surprising then when carrie heard what chad told us when we interviewed him before the trial. >> louis has been a nervous wreck since all this happened he told me. >> we drove with mr. wallin reed from his cabin in my vehicle, videotaping. >> did he ever that night say, why were you shooting at me in the car or you shot at me in the car or anything like that? Listen to this episode from Dateline NBC on Spotify. >> you can't get it out of your head. no amount of jail time will fix it. i was surprised i could still feel pain because my leg had gone numb so long that all it remained was pain. >> in fact, the army asked chad to leave. is it possible you were wrong? i said, i took off after them, and i think i killed one of them. this was perhaps the worst -- wearing a combat infantry badge and a ranger tab and other such patches when all of those things which the jury had been made to believe about chad's military service based on his own statements to police were all lies. it was the sound of, you know, gun fire. >> and eventually somebody makes their way over toward the car and says -- >> let me see your hands. shots fired. Diana Galastyan, 26, denies that the Russian authorities may be trying to scare people . >> the police were looking for a, gun of course. 'kay, i'm here. Enjoy bingeworthy Originals and a huge catalogue of hit TV series and blockbuster films. >> no? and you'll only find it at a sleep number store. some people ugh! >> chad was still in hot pursuit. Play All. we're on our way. >> like a piece of plastic. he was making sure we were safe. he was creative. >> ramped it up some more. >> the meadow that is, the dirt road where the shooting took place. pfft! >> not for this. Mystery in South Beach. >> but as the hours stretched through the night into july 4th chad began to see more and more clearly that he was not to blame. discharged him for forging sick leave papers and bringing a personal firearm into the barracks. Where to Watch. and what was about to? then an urgent call came over the radio. Peacock is spreading its wings worldwide. >> i know i've been out for ten years. >> yeah. Originally aired on NBC on October 18, 2013. but it didn't look good. tremendously. >> someone in the car ahead threw solar lights out the window, then waved something. >> gaining on you. hannah has sent you a friend request. and then the next thing i know as i'm looking up i see these three flashes and then i hear crack, crack, crack, crack. Miles From Nowhere. that same sunday morning chad and carrie's children woke up to the sound of strangers rummaging through the cabin. (laughing) walmart has top brands of windows touchscreen computers powered by intel -- and you can put them on layaway today free with no opening fee. what do you think is the appropriate thing that should happen to this man? for one thing, shards of broken glass, which clearly marked precisely where the car was, when chad blew out the window. Details. In this Dateline classic, a young father in the California mountains calls 911 to report that he had been in a shoot-out with a car full of strangers. Dateline Miles From Nowhere, Part 10 A literal trail of evidence found in the meadow may help the prosecution prove that Chad lied about what happened that night. In this Dateline classic, a young father in the California mountains calls 911 to report that he had been in a shoot-out with a car full of strangers. hey! >> i think we pretty well proved there was a gun in the victims' car that they fired at chad. exclusively from sears, can help. what if i can't hide my symptoms? if the young men fired at chad first as the defense went to a lot of trouble to prove, then maybe chad's reaction was reasonable. >> at a cabin in the woods a family terrified. on October 19, 2013. the next thing you know they're getting shot at. he remembered quite clearly what the assailant said just before he got into his truck to leave. >> it was in the dark that the fear began. >> there is, safe to say, no way on this earth a mother can be adequately prepared for the news, carol starzza was about to receive. >> daddy will protect you. >> fear where no one could hear them, no one could help. >> it was just before halloween. >> the next thing i know, glass is exploding. >> rory's father, carol's ex-husband, dave mcguire, came, too. seemed almost like a dare. three men, badly wounded, one of them critically. good. and he watched vigilant, didn't rest easy, especially because one of those break-ins had been just that very year. it's not bad for canned soup, right? >> yes. >> i said, come on. >> then that afternoon while chad was away on an errand carrie looked out the window and there was a jeep heading up the long driveway, driven by a young man she did not know. coming up -- back home chad faces the reality of what's happened. >> it was bad. >> reporter: well, b.a.r.t. tried to keep talking to rory, who was lying in the back seat. maybe an hour and a half. >> a promise he intended to keep. he's not afraid anymore. >> it's fun. there ain't no way. uh-huh. >> i want you to stand up. remember those pesky squirrels? >> i think that -- i don't -- my faith in the legal system is seriously shaken. no way. hiding the only remnants of what happened here. >> just somewhat odd that the story as it unfolded each time we talked to him it kind of, it somewhat changed. >> because of the gun shot residue in the car, the lack of bullet strikes on that side of the car, and the gun shot residue on the hand of the person who was riding shotgun if you will. >> then staley saw something strange poking out of the meadow floor. i think it sets the tone for his state of mind. (beeping) i'm on my way. Peacock Peacock TV LLC. rory mcguire's dad, still struggling with an inexpressible anger. >> and then i just remember seeing some guy running away. Content Summary. the evidence suggested he was shooting to kill the occupants even as they were trying to get away. 4. too big. 7.6 miles they went careening up the winding country road until the car took a quick turn on to a remote dirt road. the belt he used as a turniquet just above his knee possibly saved his knife. >> i picked up the pistol. it was scary to me. meanwhile, two women are frantic with worry, one for her husband, the other for her son. All other programs and/or marks are the property of their respective owners. >> but defense attorneys stuck to the heart of their case. the old plumas county courthouse, lovely in the autumn sun, has pride of place here on main street in quincy, california. with this mialright.transmitter. he fired a warning shot. >> it was very confusing for all the officers responding. and take home a second entre for later. McGuire was shot in the head and died two days later. i've made my success happen. >> whether it's your first trial or your 50th you're holding your breath. and he's been fired on already, coming back toward him, he thinks they're firing on him again. With one man dead and two others injured, authorities wonder if this was self-defense or something else. >> when it's your children and they're scared like that and. they're out in the middle of nowhere on a dirt road. 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